LINK tracks East-West, Sipirkakim, Pirka Menoko - tarmac (classic format tracks by Lakimakromedia)
Source:PL-RBR modeling Info: Pro ostatní žádné překvapení, ale uživatelé českého pluginu se zas tak často na asfaltové Japonsko a Austrálii nepodívají...
This tracks were made for fun, I share with Sipirkakim on czech plugin forum, but nobody was interested, so I left project ... I share again, because somebody asked my about it, so by the way I put it on my blog ;). This is whole story :P. So this tracks are not WIP, but if will be some interesting, maybe we will back to project, with new rally from france or something.
Sure Laki, I was just teasing, if they will be more interested (137 yesterday, it's not so bad). But still will want at least those tracksettings ... I have a question: you can also redo Ireland released by Kazhol? And maybe add some objects (walls, houses, bushes)? What do you think?
Čau chtěl bych se zeptat je to někde ke stažení myslím třeba zabalené do zip,rar nebo tak něco?Popřípadě mohl bych někoho poprosit zda by to tak udělal? Dík
What a crap. All mods are only new texture and rework physics. But it makes no sense to stay the roadmesh as it is. Tarmac roads are complete different than gravel roads for road Slope, ruts, border shape and so on. Why allways made a quick n dirty modify and sell as great new stuff...please take some more time and make it right (than it will find more interest).
I only open one rbz and see, there some missing textures and for example on damp are the old gravel track textures inside.... Hopfully the quality of RBR modding sinking not more...
Who said these words? We can know what you've created for RBR? Yes, the result is not perfect, but it's an old project from Laki and it is useful to first see if it makes sense to continue ...
This was test to it is posible to make oryginal tracks as new tracks. Yes everything is old, only textures and physics files are changed, but how I wrote it was only test. And this test told me that, Japan, Australia can be "converted" fo 100% USA I'm not sure, Finland, France and Britain can't be changed [in this way], but if You like to rebuild whole track like montekland of it's not a problem. With Your phylosophy all plugins without czech is a crap because it offer even Finland tarmac, with non physical grass (because snow banks have changed texture only) :) Please share with us some new tracks, We will be appreciate ;)
PS Myro, in this post is answer for Your ask. I cant make Rally Ireland :/. < This was main reason why I'm checked this capabilities.
to žiadna novinka, okrem českeho pluginu sa používa bežne. na mďarskon napr. všetké origo Rz-ty sa jazdia okrem asfalty aj na snehu, a snehové a asfaltové Rz-ty zas jazdia aj na šotoline ( finsko a france ).
Właśnie przez takich debili którzy wszystko krytykują się odechciewa i jak tu coś robić? Nie dziwie się, że ten car admin (Mirek?) zrezygnował ... Teraz macie full nowych aut, przy takim nastawieniu, tras pewnie też będziecie mieli multum.
PS Jeśli przerobię taką japonie, jak to zrobili z montekami to się głęboko zastanowie czy dać na jakikolwiek plugin, choć najbliżej mi po czeskim do węgierskiego, bo polak i węgier to dwa bratanki. Także koniec hejtu.
Where do you get your information about reason of car admins?? As i read, they give up by "when it´s done" and " i want ..." spamming. The question is, why i need 4 plugins if they all have same stuff in same quality? The pluginadmins decide what is add and what not. The quality is defined by track designer noone more. I can t understand, that somone think it´s not allowed to criticize. There some people they dont want masses of quick n dirty work. In my opinion better few stuff but high quality.
Why should it not possible to modifiy EVERY track in this way. It is only Photoshop work and a little bit physics changing isn´t it? If you be high skilled in photoshop, you make such modification in 3 days, maybe a week but not more. And yes the montekland modification was a little bit more work, but there is the same quick n dirty work on some places. I belive, if tarmac road would be more realistic shaped, it would accepted. Me not, because i think every track modification must have some special, other track, complete new textures, add objects whatever. You have all possibilitys. It´s not need to released quick n dirty work and encumber oneself about criticism and less interest, do it better and all celebrate a new hero
So I think I have to qoute myself... "This tracks were made for fun, I share with Sipirkakim on czech plugin forum, but nobody was interested, so I left project ... I share again, because somebody asked my about it, so by the way I put it on my blog ;). This is whole story :P. So this tracks are not WIP, but if will be some interesting, maybe we will back to project, with new rally from france or something." These tracks are not released!! It's not even WIP!! It's only TEST, so don't call it dirty work!~ You can criticize wip project (if author need feedback), and final released, but test like this and call it dirty work? o0 BTW I tryied make Finland tracks without snow banks, but this took too much time compare with results.
"Why should it not possible to modifiy EVERY track in this way." Why? Then try do this same with British stages, especially with Rally Ireland. Try and answer me why it's imposible. Maybe You will understand it! If You think this is only photoshoped (..), then You don't know enough about work with tracks.
"The question is, why i need 4 plugins if they all have same stuff in same quality?" No they didn't have same quality. All plugins are difrent, most similar are italian and french. Both have this stupid interface outside RBR, what I don't like. Every plugin have own tracks, physics mods etc, so don't tell Us they have same stuff - not in 100%. You will say than in 98%, so I will answer, in 98% mokeys are humans ... So little and so much.
It´s look a little bit fussy to speak about details. If i look around, french, italy and since (i belive) 2010 hungarian have similar stuff and similar quality. We all know the czech administration problem but you can look 100times more around, it is the most advanced plugin with highest quality level of tracks and cars. Generaly in my opinion is this only our plugin thinking the biggest bullshit on the rbr comunity.
I dont want discuss more about apple and peaches, i will try myself in next time. i will make quick n dirty testing 1) make for example chirdonhead to tarmac (maybe i could save my time if you tell me what is the problem which i cant see) 2) testing to make finland gravel (for example sikakama) without snowbanks but i will not make the complete track, only start and see whats happend
hopfully this can motivate to spend a little more time for quality.
If You save Japan and Australia as different slot it can start, but with England France, are problems, I do everything the same, and these stages have crash when loading. I tried different solutions but always crash. Even if I put it as original slot.
I hope You know how save original track as new track [change slot number and .mat file is not enough ;)], but if it would start I would be honored to hear.read your way. BTW I checked it only on czech plugin, because I dont know how put new track into Fr; It; Hu plugin.
How many segments of loadingbeam did you have if it crashed? If it crash on the 5th you have a texture problem. Than compare the texture list in wallaby with texture files inside RBZ. You must have minimum all textures inside the dry/new folder inside RBZ to test your track with dry.Orginal tracks sometimes have linked the missing textures and take it from other one.
And Laki? I test chirdonhead. as i sad, only need to copy missing textures to the right folder in RBZ and than it´s working with normal ID change. You should think about. That you not able to do is not a reason for a impossible solution. You have a very skilled trackmaker in poland, why you dont ask Martinez with such problems?
You wrote, finnland to gravel without snowbanks are to much work for the result, why? You only start projects which can done in a week and where you have finished bases? And sorry, quick and dirty is a saw for fast and so more simple work. In relation of normal trackmaker work this conversion is a little bit poor.
The missing ons. For own id all weather folder must have all textures defined in the ini of the track. orginaltracks have sometimes linked to different folder, but that actual isn´t possible for resaved tracks
sory laki, you sad i not know enough of rbr tracks, but you fail for the poor base of trackbuilding. please read the scripts and learn the basics
W moim pliku rbz są wszystkie pliki, pomimo to nadal jest błąd. I przestań pisać jako anonim, bo tak czepialską osobą może być tylko jeden człowiek w tym światku.
If you not be able to understand the simplest you should not say you be a trackbuilder. It´s not my mission to explain you trackmaking from base. There some trackmaker guys who are able to transpose my help better.I sad all what you need ,find out yourself your mistake.
your trolling is of no help for the community. Is it always you the anonymous guy who complains and insult all the time on this blog? Get a life please.
"Now i understand, you want only change tracknumber of original Tracks without reexport from wallaby. there could be problems, because original tracks sometimes share textures. Change only col file is a lot of work too, you be not able to export col mesh (?) so you must export groundmesh. as i remember, exported mesh lost the map coordinates of texturemap, maybe only texture refereces (dont remember right). but you need the textures for correct physics. So it isnt easy.
in my opinion, all the origianal track modification are only quick n dirty and not quality (Include the Montekland or tarmac/gravel mods). If someone do something, it should rework as nobody can identify original Track. There many possibilitys like make new textures of ground and objects (most important change Vegitation), change track surface, add -, mirror- and cut trackparts, add groundsurfaces (like a hill or such), add and delete objects.....
You think more who m i, than thinking about what i sad. You can riddle years, but i dont want spam from you. so take your aggrieved honor think about and than learn your missing bases. Here is my last present for you http://www.uschovna.cz/zasilka/M03RDINDI7AEIV5N-524
remember, i only copy one weather and fix condition dry/new.
xD
OdpovědětVymazatThis tracks were made for fun, I share with Sipirkakim on czech plugin forum, but nobody was interested, so I left project ...
OdpovědětVymazatI share again, because somebody asked my about it, so by the way I put it on my blog ;). This is whole story :P.
So this tracks are not WIP, but if will be some interesting, maybe we will back to project, with new rally from france or something.
Sure Laki,
OdpovědětVymazatI was just teasing, if they will be more interested (137 yesterday, it's not so bad). But still will want at least those tracksettings ...
I have a question: you can also redo Ireland released by Kazhol? And maybe add some objects (walls, houses, bushes)?
What do you think?
Čau chtěl bych se zeptat je to někde ke stažení myslím třeba zabalené do zip,rar nebo tak něco?Popřípadě mohl bych někoho poprosit zda by to tak udělal? Dík
OdpovědětVymazatklikni si na source a dál to snad najdeš,jsou tam všechny 3 trate.Je to super akorád na East-West jsou nějaké chyby
VymazatWhat a crap. All mods are only new texture and rework physics. But it makes no sense to stay the roadmesh as it is. Tarmac roads are complete different than gravel roads for road Slope, ruts, border shape and so on. Why allways made a quick n dirty modify and sell as great new stuff...please take some more time and make it right (than it will find more interest).
OdpovědětVymazatI only open one rbz and see, there some missing textures and for example on damp are the old gravel track textures inside....
Hopfully the quality of RBR modding sinking not more...
Who said these words? We can know what you've created for RBR?
VymazatYes, the result is not perfect, but it's an old project from Laki and it is useful to first see if it makes sense to continue ...
This was test to it is posible to make oryginal tracks as new tracks. Yes everything is old, only textures and physics files are changed, but how I wrote it was only test. And this test told me that, Japan, Australia can be "converted" fo 100% USA I'm not sure, Finland, France and Britain can't be changed [in this way], but if You like to rebuild whole track like montekland of it's not a problem. With Your phylosophy all plugins without czech is a crap because it offer even Finland tarmac, with non physical grass (because snow banks have changed texture only) :)
VymazatPlease share with us some new tracks, We will be appreciate ;)
PS
Myro, in this post is answer for Your ask. I cant make Rally Ireland :/. < This was main reason why I'm checked this capabilities.
Regards
L.
to žiadna novinka, okrem českeho pluginu sa používa bežne. na mďarskon napr. všetké origo Rz-ty sa jazdia okrem asfalty aj na snehu, a snehové a asfaltové Rz-ty zas jazdia aj na šotoline ( finsko a france ).
OdpovědětVymazatNic nowego? Na czeskim pluginie to nowość, na pozostałych oczywiście, że nie.
VymazatNo i przeczytaj sobie co napisałem: 19. února 2013 17:37 ...
Właśnie przez takich debili którzy wszystko krytykują się odechciewa i jak tu coś robić? Nie dziwie się, że ten car admin (Mirek?) zrezygnował ... Teraz macie full nowych aut, przy takim nastawieniu, tras pewnie też będziecie mieli multum.
OdpovědětVymazatPS
Jeśli przerobię taką japonie, jak to zrobili z montekami to się głęboko zastanowie czy dać na jakikolwiek plugin, choć najbliżej mi po czeskim do węgierskiego, bo polak i węgier to dwa bratanki.
Także koniec hejtu.
Én üdvözöllek.
Where do you get your information about reason of car admins??
OdpovědětVymazatAs i read, they give up by "when it´s done" and " i want ..." spamming.
The question is, why i need 4 plugins if they all have same stuff in same quality?
The pluginadmins decide what is add and what not. The quality is defined by track designer noone more.
I can t understand, that somone think it´s not allowed to criticize. There some people they dont want masses of quick n dirty work. In my opinion better few stuff but high quality.
Why should it not possible to modifiy EVERY track in this way. It is only Photoshop work and a little bit physics changing isn´t it? If you be high skilled in photoshop, you make such modification in 3 days, maybe a week but not more.
And yes the montekland modification was a little bit more work, but there is the same quick n dirty work on some places.
I belive, if tarmac road would be more realistic shaped, it would accepted. Me not, because i think every track modification must have some special, other track, complete new textures, add objects whatever. You have all possibilitys. It´s not need to released quick n dirty work and encumber oneself about criticism and less interest, do it better and all celebrate a new hero
So I think I have to qoute myself...
OdpovědětVymazat"This tracks were made for fun, I share with Sipirkakim on czech plugin forum, but nobody was interested, so I left project ...
I share again, because somebody asked my about it, so by the way I put it on my blog ;). This is whole story :P.
So this tracks are not WIP, but if will be some interesting, maybe we will back to project, with new rally from france or something."
These tracks are not released!! It's not even WIP!! It's only TEST, so don't call it dirty work!~
You can criticize wip project (if author need feedback), and final released, but test like this and call it dirty work? o0
BTW
I tryied make Finland tracks without snow banks, but this took too much time compare with results.
"Why should it not possible to modifiy EVERY track in this way." Why? Then try do this same with British stages, especially with Rally Ireland. Try and answer me why it's imposible. Maybe You will understand it! If You think this is only photoshoped (..), then You don't know enough about work with tracks.
"The question is, why i need 4 plugins if they all have same stuff in same quality?" No they didn't have same quality. All plugins are difrent, most similar are italian and french. Both have this stupid interface outside RBR, what I don't like.
Every plugin have own tracks, physics mods etc, so don't tell Us they have same stuff - not in 100%. You will say than in 98%, so I will answer, in 98% mokeys are humans ... So little and so much.
Regards mr John Doe.
L.
It´s look a little bit fussy to speak about details. If i look around, french, italy and since (i belive) 2010 hungarian have similar stuff and similar quality.
OdpovědětVymazatWe all know the czech administration problem but you can look 100times more around, it is the most advanced plugin with highest quality level of tracks and cars.
Generaly in my opinion is this only our plugin thinking the biggest bullshit on the rbr comunity.
I dont want discuss more about apple and peaches, i will try myself in next time.
i will make quick n dirty testing
1) make for example chirdonhead to tarmac (maybe i could save my time if you tell me what is the problem which i cant see)
2) testing to make finland gravel (for example sikakama) without snowbanks
but i will not make the complete track, only start and see whats happend
hopfully this can motivate to spend a little more time for quality.
hopfully this
If You save Japan and Australia as different slot it can start, but with England France, are problems, I do everything the same, and these stages have crash when loading. I tried different solutions but always crash. Even if I put it as original slot.
OdpovědětVymazatI hope You know how save original track as new track [change slot number and .mat file is not enough ;)], but if it would start I would be honored to hear.read your way. BTW I checked it only on czech plugin, because I dont know how put new track into Fr; It; Hu plugin.
OdpovědětVymazatRegards
How many segments of loadingbeam did you have if it crashed? If it crash on the 5th you have a texture problem. Than compare the texture list in wallaby with texture files inside RBZ. You must have minimum all textures inside the dry/new folder inside RBZ to test your track with dry.Orginal tracks sometimes have linked the missing textures and take it from other one.
OdpovědětVymazatPlease finish Sipirkakim! It's fantastic! please add some objects and spectators and it will be great fun!:)
OdpovědětVymazatAnd Laki?
OdpovědětVymazatI test chirdonhead. as i sad, only need to copy missing textures to the right folder in RBZ and than it´s working with normal ID change.
You should think about. That you not able to do is not a reason for a impossible solution. You have a very skilled trackmaker in poland, why you dont ask Martinez with such problems?
You wrote, finnland to gravel without snowbanks are to much work for the result, why? You only start projects which can done in a week and where you have finished bases? And sorry, quick and dirty is a saw for fast and so more simple work. In relation of normal trackmaker work this conversion is a little bit poor.
I not checked it yet, but -> "only need to copy missing textures" Which textures?
OdpovědětVymazatThe missing ons. For own id all weather folder must have all textures defined in the ini of the track.
OdpovědětVymazatorginaltracks have sometimes linked to different folder, but that actual isn´t possible for resaved tracks
sory laki, you sad i not know enough of rbr tracks, but you fail for the poor base of trackbuilding. please read the scripts and learn the basics
wow, we are eager to see some of your masterpieces for RBR then! thanks master!
VymazatW moim pliku rbz są wszystkie pliki, pomimo to nadal jest błąd.
OdpovědětVymazatI przestań pisać jako anonim, bo tak czepialską osobą może być tylko jeden człowiek w tym światku.
If you not be able to understand the simplest you should not say you be a trackbuilder. It´s not my mission to explain you trackmaking from base. There some trackmaker guys who are able to transpose my help better.I sad all what you need ,find out yourself your mistake.
OdpovědětVymazatyour trolling is of no help for the community. Is it always you the anonymous guy who complains and insult all the time on this blog? Get a life please.
VymazatHey Laki, either at rest. Maybe sometimes unknown anonymous share his huge knowledge with us who digs in it every free time :-)
VymazatWhy I think It's Lambda:
OdpovědětVymazatHis words from devforum:
"Now i understand, you want only change tracknumber of original Tracks without reexport from wallaby. there could be problems, because original tracks sometimes share textures. Change only col file is a lot of work too, you be not able to export col mesh (?) so you must export groundmesh. as i remember, exported mesh lost the map coordinates of texturemap, maybe only texture refereces (dont remember right). but you need the textures for correct physics. So it isnt easy.
in my opinion, all the origianal track modification are only quick n dirty and not quality (Include the Montekland or tarmac/gravel mods). If someone do something, it should rework as nobody can identify original Track. There many possibilitys like make new textures of ground and objects (most important change Vegitation), change track surface, add -, mirror- and cut trackparts, add groundsurfaces (like a hill or such), add and delete objects.....
Lamda"
You think more who m i, than thinking about what i sad. You can riddle years, but i dont want spam from you. so take your aggrieved honor think about and than learn your missing bases.
OdpovědětVymazatHere is my last present for you
http://www.uschovna.cz/zasilka/M03RDINDI7AEIV5N-524
remember, i only copy one weather and fix condition dry/new.
I am sorry that this was not done sooner. Kazhol would certainly merit that their effort was not forgotten.
VymazatSomeone can re-upload this file?
Vymazat
Vymazathttp://ulozto.cz/xWDLxxP/test-chirdonhead-rar
:-)
Many thanks.
OdpovědětVymazatStefano